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Other Than Honorable Discharge
This blog is dedicated to prior service members who are seeking help with the challenges of receiving and OTH or other than honorable discharge after leaving the U.S. Armed forces. All helpful comments are encouraged. Negative comments will not be posted.
I got discharged with an oth and i want to go back in to the servise,i got discharged because me and my ex wife was divorcing each other i was only 19 and my command didnt even help me i was mentally fustrated and didnt know what to do so i got drunk and went ua but they sent me to ccu but i didnt finish it while i was in i talk to my wife and she had told me that it was over by this time she was at home,i just wanted to go home with my wife my command didnt want to to command sposor me and my wife so the first troubl i got into they dischared me what can i do
ReplyDeleteI was recently processed out with an OTH discharge for failing a urinalysis test. I popped for a low level of THC. I was going through a stressful time in my life but I do not want to use that as an excuse. I would like to debate the drug testing standards though. A person can have thc in there system for quite some time and it not have any adverse affects on one's ability to do a job. Really most the affects of canibus are gone within the hour, however the military would argue that it is irrelevant and that the substance is illegal and no amount should be in your system. So then I pose the question why do more than a half dozen states find no problem with smoking cannibus? Why was cannibus widely and openly used in the early years of the military and given to many of the Vietnam era soldiers as a way to cope with what is now being called Post Tramatic Stress? There is alot of encouragement to drink yourself into oblivion as long as you can stand in formation the next morning so how can one justify that and in the same breath deem me undeserving of serving my country because I smoked a joint three weeks before my time to report for duty? Im sorry I love this country but there are many backward ass regulations that need to be fixed.
ReplyDeleteI popped on a pee test. It was an isolated incident, and occurred shortly after my mother's passing. My unit's command tried to keep me in. The JAG I was appointed said if I agreed to be discharged, no one would see my blemished record. He lied to me, and now I'm screwed.
ReplyDeleteI was OTH'd from the Marine Corps in June of 2010 for failing a UA. I was found guilty of using a controlled substance(MDMA). I was found guilty along with two of my fellow Marines, all for the same substance. Myself and one of my friends do not remember the night but the third does. He said we did not, in any way, take any drugs the weekend we were out. We also had full expectations that there was going to be a UA the follow Monday. In the CID interigation I did not desclose whether or not I did take MDMA. I only stated that to the best of my knowlege I did not ingest Ecstacy. What can I do and does anyone believe that myself and my two friends were wrongfully discharged?
ReplyDeleteBlood tests dont lie. You screwed up. Own it and move on.
DeleteI recieved an OTH in Dec 09 for misconduct. In 2007 I recieved a DUI and then in Dec. 2009 a officer accused me of adultery with his wife, there are way too many holes in his story to be upheld. Because I was on terminal leave when this took place, along with the fact he presented a convicted felon to state she had seen the adultery take place. And he invoked his article 31 rights on the stand and did not back up his accusations. The holes can continus in to next week but I was wondering if anyone had any advice to having this overturned or if they have every heard of this type of OTH. I need advice from a reliable source, I would like to have this overturned because I had already left on terminal leave and I recieved this OTH with 12 1/2 Hours left on my contract.
ReplyDeleteI was disacharge oth due to a false accusation for indecent assault. she was willing to make out, but her son saw her and said, either you tell dad or i will so she told my command i grab her breast and put her hadn in my erected pen.... my jag didn;t herlp me at all, i took the oth because the prosecuting jag was calling my hometown when my dad had just ahd a heart surgery so i signed the waiver to the board, and i got the oth. what can i do at this time. it was back in 2005, please when responding put as subject oth navy haguilar50@hotmail.com
ReplyDeleteHave 13yrs of honorable service. and the US Navy is tossing me out for article 92. i admit i have had my ups and downs in the service. i have 3 prt failures in a 4yrs period and 3 CO mast's under my belt. but the navy held on to me after all that and started another investagation on me. now there tossing me out without my seperation pay for higher ten yr that i have deserved. i have 2 honorable discharges under my belt, and was hoping for one more, but now the Navy has gone and F**K it up for me.
ReplyDeleteI was discharged in 2000 with a OTH for failing a urinalysis. I served 3 years 10 months of my 4 year contract when it was all said and done. I had some problems follow me from my previous duty station that were eventually dropped due to a new first seargent (the first one didn't care at all) I had many checks bounce while I was overseas, it was a problem with my bank, not me. The bank would not admit fault to me, they did to my first shirt, and everything was fine. Although I was cleared I was still ostercized by most of the people I worked with. If your name comes up in bad stuff, doesn't matter if your cleared, your still considered problematic. This led me to become very jaded and say to hell with it. I smoked marijuana with two other guys from my squadron, I knew of at least 13 people there doing it, and one using crack. There was a girl just before me that was stationed there, got back from the desert with weeks left in the service, got popped in a room inspection having pot and selling equipment. They let her go, no punishment because she only had a couple of weeks left in the service. This was told to my by people who knew her and knew my curcumstance. When I was told I failed my urinalysis I was asked to take a second one 13 days after my first. That test also came up dirty with less THC than the first one. When I failed my first, I had a general, since I failed two I got the OTC. I believe, no I know for a fact that I got punished twice for the same pot usage. I agreed to everything they asked of me, I told them I just don't want a dishonorable or to go to jail. I could've and should've denied that second urinalysis once they had me in investigations interrogating me, that would've made them have to get me a COMMAND DIRECTED URINALYSIS which CANNOT be used against you, randoms yes, command directed, no. I was stationed with a guy while I was in trouble who was failed a UA for cocaine. He eventually went awol for 3 months and was shot by LAPD with a beanbag gun, returned to the base, failed 7 COMMAND DIRECTED UA'S and got out with a better discharge than me. Is the system fair, no, did I screw up, yes. Has my life been very hard since then (10 years later) yes, has my earning potential been hit hard, yes. I am lucky to have a job making 13 dollars an hour now. I make roughly 15 thousand a year now. I am a good person, I have never been in trouble with the law before or since. I believe in the law and have always wanted to be a cop, many of whom have also used illegal drugs far more than I have. Don't forget about the alcoholics, the spousal abusers, basically every other type of crime that happens on the base that automatically get a second chance, in the case of spousal abuse I worked with a guy that lost staff seargent TWICE for it and got popped a third time while I was stationed with him, but you know that guy is far more stable with a gun (we were SP's, cops) than I am. I messed up, I take full responsibility for that but the punishment does not fit the crime. I am still 10 years later feeling the effects of this. I have never went to jail, I have never stolen, hurt, beat anyone, swindled people out of their money or anything of that nature and yet I get treated worse in some cases than people that have been criminally convicted of those things. Am I mad about this, yes, everyday is a struggle now, my babies suffer for what I did, my wife suffers for what I did.....smoked a couple of bowls of pot with a hot girl, could've happened and has happened to 85% of the guys and gals in the service. You look up the ratio of troops that stay in vs getting out and your number will be pretty close to that. With all that being said its just easier to not get into trouble, by the way that hot girl ditched me as soon as she heard I was in trouble, so much for that.
ReplyDeleteI was in the Marines for 7 years and got an OTH for having 2 dui's within a year (both on base). Other then that I had a clean service record. I went up on a admin review board and my lawyer was sure I would get a general bc of my service record from 3 deployments to Iraq and 1 to Afghanistan but I got the OTH instead. It really does suck.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone been sent to court martial on alligated charges of domestic abuse. My circumstance is I was separated for 5 months, my ex wife came back home and basically began to be a base whore. I was activly going to counseling but she was on a vengence to mess my life up. I eventually cut her off from my bank account and her cell so she got angry, threw things and then threatened to get me kicked out of the house and the military. I tried to calm her down but she got more aggressive so I pulled her down from a table. We both fell and she barely hit her head, She was punching, biting and I had all the marks on me where she had none. She went to base security and said I tried to strangle her and kill her. Anyways, NCIS got involved and now it is out of my commands hands and they are trying to determine if this will proceed to court martial based on the evidence. She did have a minor councussion. Also in this time frame we had 3 incidents with base security coming to my residence. One of the MA's, come to find out was dating my wife at the time which I will use and have him questioned at court martial if it goes that far. I also was medicated on anti depressants which made me not think clearly at all and ever since I left the house I stop taking the medications and feel better than I ever have. Just courious if anyone has gone through or seen others go through issues of being accused of abuse when in reality it is all lies and has any advice for my situation.
ReplyDeleteI was in the navy for close to three years, when i drank with my former team members before they were to go off on deployment. I will say that night was the worst night of my life.
ReplyDeleteI ended up with alcohol poisoning and was rushed to the hospital with a bac of .30. When i awoke at the hospital there was an officer sitting next to me and then told me "we found the weed".
Apparently my wife woke up to banging at the door, she answered. The police asked if they can come in, and she let them in not realizing she left her ounce and a bong out in the open.
I told the police it was mine.....I know I'm stupid for doing so, but at the time I did what i thought was right. I didn't want my wife going to jail. I didn't smoke weed my whole stay in the military, I never popped on a piss test. I lived off base and the charges got dropped to a simple possession charge. I was discharged 8 days before my final court date.
I received an OTH discharge and I live with regret of making that decision, yet at the same time I still feel I did what I thought was right.
I was given an OTH right after getting back from Iraq(killing people) simply for smoking pot one time. I say the US Army is a joke and spits on the men that give there lives for this country. I give them OTHER THAN HONORABLE!
ReplyDeleteI was in the United States Marine Corps for 3 years 9 months. I popped positive on a random urinalysis. I am sort of fustrated on how things went down as far as the separation process, fighting for njp rather than being admin. sep'ed. One tour of Iraq and one tour of Afghanistan, Marine of the Quarter, Meritoriously promoted, recipient of numerous awards including the Navy Commendation Medal were some of the highlights of my career. Feeling as if the "Never leave a man behind" monicker was true I opted not for court martial but threw myself on the mercy of my unit, assured those who knew me best would know that this incident was one that was out of charater, isololated and even yes I dare say it innocent. Surely my SNCOIC, my fellow NCO's, numerous Marines from various billets and ranks accounted for my good moral character, exemplary performance both in and out of uniform and conduct both on duty and off. Even my OIC wrote character statements defending me. Yet it wasnt enough, hung out to dry. As I was in Station signing and finalizing my OTH discharge there I met Marines being sep'ed and bragging about recieving a Honorable discharge not completing 2 years or even a tour of duty or questionable performance even being discharged with numerous NJP's and patterns of misconduct. Yet there I stood in confusion. Here I stand in the muck of what I consider is the bottom of the bucket. All because of one questionable isolated incident. Kind of misguided when they tell you "Semper Fi" or "Hung out to dry". I guess I just wanted to vent and let everyone know your not alone keep working hard, remember what you learned... fortune favors those who strive and never give up.
ReplyDeleteI am an MP in the army working as a supply clerk. We had new stanley vidmar cabinets coming in for our arms room that needed to be stored some where well our basement was full of old broken inoperable equipment that was not on the books. My commander gave me a week to get it cleared out. Me knowing that a week was not enough time to clear it out through DRMO I removed all of it to junk it at no profit. someone in my unit ratted me out and now i am facing a chapter 13. opinions? my goal was only to complete the mission.
ReplyDeleteI Got OTH because I went AWOL for 2yrs. When i left I was pregnant so I was un deployable. The reason I left because I was sexually harassed by a E-7. I was E-2 at the time. I told my unit but they gave me no support. They tried to keep thing within the unit. Then the E-7 threaten me to another SGT. Thats when my commander told me to do a restraining order within the military base. So I did. the next day the guy see me and my SGT... an tries to run me over with his truck... I'm guessing for the restraining order. So I made me a plane ticket and left. I turn myself back in last year. I do regret leaving my career. I love the army, I just didn't like my unit. if I can start over I would have stayed. so i don't know if I was right for leaving or wrong. (Confuse)
ReplyDeletei was discharged from the military with an oth for an argument with a sargent major. which he said i threatend his life. with what i really said was he should go out with his backheaded . i swear he started it, he said i look broke my mom, and dad, are busted and broke; looking.... broke, and more broke. he called me ugly so i said if i was you i would hurt myself i did not say i wanted to hurt him. they need to get there facts straight before they discharge people i swear to god he called the police and they arrested me. they arrested me. they arrested me the king there weak chested.they discharged me with a oth for arguing with a sargent major one time. with what i dint do that. i dint even finish basic im hot mad and want revenge there straight busted
ReplyDeleteI was given an OTH in 1986. I had dropped out of high school and enlisted in the Navy. I was only seventeen years old at the time and I was very homesick and also I knew this was not what i wanted to do. I felt as though i was duped by the recruiter and i wanted to get out so i went to a counseller and spoke to him about it and he told me that if i say i was a homosexual ( which i am and was never) i could get out so that is what i did. i had no idea what was going on and the next thing i know i was out of the military entirely. i went back to school and got my diploma and now am a successful businessman. could someone please tell me if there is a way to have my OTH upgraded so that i can become eligable for government benefits?
ReplyDeleteI received an OTH from the Commanding General, dispite the fact I had two letters from Colonel's (along with other recommendations from my direct chain of command) stating that I did NOT deserve one. I have served 3 1/2 years in the Marine Corps, with average Pros/Cons of 4.4/4.4. I have no record of repeated offenses, and I have done two deployments in less than 3 years within the infantry. I was a Corporal, and I picked up with cutting score. It wasn't just handed to me. And the reason for the OTH? Because I put trust in the people that stressed "teamwork" and "for the Corps" to the extremes. I tore a ligament on my last deployment, and ended up getting prescribed pain killers on base. Eventually, I got hooked on them and I asked for help. Yes, thats correct. I ASKED for help. I didn't fail a urinalysis, I didn't get in trouble. I admitted to an addiction so that I could seek help, and the Marine Corps used that against me. Another reason is probably because I trusted what the command was telling me to do along the admin separation process, when in reality they were doing what was easiest to them and what made them look better in the long run. The Marine Corps is Semper Fi no more, but Semper I. It has changed substantially in the short 3 1/2 years that I've been in, and it is all about politics now. People will ruin someones life based on their feelings and own beliefs, rather than looking at the greater picture. I highly doubt that the CG even read any of my separations packet, and probably just had something against packets that said "drugs" on it. I'd love to find him and see how much he knows about me, as my situation should still be quite fresh on his memory, had he actually read the documents. You'd best believe that I will be submitting a rebuttal to the Navy Board of Corrections. I don't deserve this. I didn't do 3 1/2 years honorably to be put in the same position as repeat offenders and individuals who did nothing for the greater cause. I'm sure there are others in the same position as me, and I suggest that you do everything that you can to overturn the characterization of service. Never again will I ever trust another Marine. In the end, they can talk all the smack they want about "brotherhood" and "team", but in all honesty they have no clue what the definition of either one is. The higher up they get, the worse they are. Of course this isn't for 100% of them, but I'm speaking of the ones that I was involved with. Bunch of selfish, ignorant idiots who hide behind their rank since they don't amount to more than a pile of dirt in the real world. I've given the MC many chances to prove me wrong, but its made more clear to me every time I have any interaction with them.
ReplyDeleteI received an OTH because I went AWOL during my phase 2 of my first AIT and turned myself in after 6 months. I was going through some personal issues that I didn't inform anyone about and also had a health scare as well which led me to go AWOL. I thought about reenlisting several times throughout the last 5 yrs, but more recently very serious about it. I was not aware that people with an OTH discharge are not eligible to reenlist and that upset me. I read that OTH discharge is a very servere form of discharge and I feel like I didn't deserve it. Going AWOL & ruining my military career has been my biggest regret in life. I loved being in the Army & joining was the best decision I ever made. I really wish I could go back.
ReplyDeleteI served in the US Navy the 5yrs (4yrs 11mos 26days). It was my first enlistment and I had intentions of making the military a career. I was discharged with an OTH characterized misconduct. They said I fail a UA with a low THC count, but when I asked for a retest, all they did was retest the same sample. Plus, the batch had a leak, as per the first results. What is the policy on retests??? Aren't they supposed to throw that batch out and have those individuals re-sample???
ReplyDeleteI was discharged under OTH conditions 20+ years ago. My story reads just like others here. Made a mistake or two and ended up on the shit-list of the command Here is some advice to everyone who posted here. Dont even bother trying to get it chaanged. The proceedure is a joke, and you will not get a discharge upgrade. Even if you do, it will be to a general discharge, and that isnt any better than an OTH. I really cared about the ramifications of such a discharge at that time. Since then, I have come to realize that no one cares about whether or not you were ever in the military. I Listed my military service on job applications and resumes over the years. I was never questioned about it in any interview. I know I'll never be considered for any government work, but as effed up as the military operates, why the hell would anyone want anything to do with working in similar environments? I have never been out of work and have always had good paying jobs. Looking back, I wonder why I ever worried about my discharge.
ReplyDeleteI just received a oth discharge for misconduct. it was adultery and for having relations with a poolee. (of age btw) I was stupid and wrong and i didnt wait for my divorce to be completed. I took the discharge in lieu of court martial. This is the only thing on my record in my 7 years in the marine corps. is there anyway in the future to up grade this? If so please email infantry2021.dt@gmail.com
ReplyDeletetwo above me...get the sand out and find a straw! I have an OTH from the Marine Corps after being the 1st boot to attend and complete Squad Leaders Coarse in the top 5%. Not a negative mark in my whole record. It IS possible to get your status upgraded. And just like everything else, if you're service was dedicated, you would treat it like any other mission and accomplish it! Adapt and overcome the biggest obstical of your life to get your life back. I'm not giving up and I encourage every one of you to keep trying. Be a boot in their ass and bug the crap out of them until they listen.
ReplyDeleteAfter all....WE DO STILL LIVE IN AMERICA!! SEMPER FI
i have one dui and pending a court martial..gimme a break. one dui. funny thing is im being charged in civilian district court as well as a special court martial and wasnt even offered and njp. so its the possibility of 2 dui convictions in two jurisdictions or an oth...the military is a shitty hand.
ReplyDeleteUS Navy 88 - 91 OTH Alcohol rehab failure, Disobeying a lawful order, commission of a serious offence , USS KITTY HAWK CV63, PHILADELPHIA NAVAL SHIP YARD, DRY DOCK. In 1988, The ship wasn't going anywhere for a long time. Chipping, Grinding, Painting, welding, ASBESTOS, LED poisoning, All who served in these conditions strait out of boot, got a taste of what the real navy wasn't. My story isn't new, its the same as any others. Sailor wants to rate and is told the billet is closed, you must choose another rate. Did not want to strike another rate, wanted the rate that was closed. Girl leave sailor for someone else, pregnant with your child, too young to emotionally Handle the news, so go out and get drunk, meet another girl, happy again, date for 2 years, she is diagnosed with cancer and dies, still two young to emotionally handle the news. Go out get drunk, still to drunk to make muster, written up on UA, Continue to get drunk and still cant make muster because still to drunk and hungover. Sent to alcohol rehab, deny have problem and continue to drink, UA again, extra duty, UA extra duty. CO mast, 30 days in brig,3 day bread and water, get out of Brig Get drunk, UA again, drunk and disobeyed a lawful order, commission of a serious offence. special court martial, recommend by command OTH. 25 years later Im still depressed and bitter, wish I could take it all back.
ReplyDeleteTo go on means going from here, means finding me, losing me, vanishing and beginning again, a stranger first, then little by little the same as always, in another place, where I shall say I have always been, of which I shall know nothing, being incapable of seeing, moving, thinking, speaking, but of which little by little, in spite of these handicaps, I shall begin to know something, just enough for it to turn out to be the same place as always, the same which seems made for me and does not want me, which I seem to want and do not want, take your choice, which spews me out or swallows me up, I’ll never know, which is perhaps merely the inside of my distant skull where once I wandered, now am fixed, lost for tininess, or straining against the walls, with my head, my hands, my feet, my back, and ever murmuring my old stories, my old story, as if it were the first time.
Samuel Beckett, The Unnamable
So i am in the Army, i am going through an MEB and i have like a month and a half left, and now am facing a CHapter 14-12B for patterns of misconduct. I am 25, and still in school, besides the G.I. Bill, how will this really effect my life? i am stressing really bad. I know i will most likely get my VA compensation since all like 9 of my claims are service connected.
ReplyDeleteI was retaliated on for telling on my superiors for sexual harrasment, I was released and have ptsd
ReplyDeleteMy name is Jasin, I was in the Navy in '04-'08. I met "philes", rapist and crazy minded individuals. I would see and hear about female sailors sexually harassed endlessly. The young new sailors, I don't think knew how to fight back legally. Even if they do, they get harassed more for telling. I served and got out honorably, but so did some of those sailors guilty of being A@@holes to the female sailors.Some of the young male sailors were screwed with too from the same male upper chain of command. I thought I was joining a "force for good." But its just a representation of what is wrong with the world. I wished I would have done something myself, but I didn't know what to do either, I wanted my honorable discharge and I didnt want to mess up my career. But I thought I get this off my chest. I went to school in San Fran. I hope to go to law school in the future. I don't judge folks who get out of the military with an other than honorable, because I understand and I know, I know. Keep your spirits up and let me add that there were good times mostly in the Navy. I am just pointing out how a few moments and a few bad apples can impact so many young careers negatively. Thanks for all of you who served.
DeleteI am being discharged from the uscg OTH with reason of a serious offense, though I still have my civil case and I k ow I will be found not guilty, I've been charged with a class a felony will the bcmr approve me if I try to get a honorable because I mean if I never did the crime then doesn't that mean I'm not guilty and therefore no reason for discharge?
ReplyDeletewhat is the penalty for admitting to substance abuse?(this question does NOT pertain to getting caught in any way such as: distribution, possession, or a drug pop). im trying to fight against getting discharged with an OTH.
ReplyDeleteIn 1980-81 the Regan's just say no to drugs was full speed ahead as was the drug problem in the military. And I was on the uss Enterprise and right in the middle of it. I only had 6 months left on my 3 years but my drug and alcohol use was getting worse. I never 1 time got in trouble off the ship but was getting closer by the day and when my grandmother got very ill and an all night party I found my self hitch hiking to Ky. not authorized and turned myself in after 3 weeks. Pres. Regan and the military began a clean up and Anyone who got caught with drugs was offered an early out where if you kept clean with no trouble after being discharged with I thought a general discharge you could have discharge upgraded to honorable after a couple of years and not loose any benefits.
ReplyDeleteI never had any problems with the law afterwards but battled drugs and alcohol abuse for the next 20 years but have been clean over 10 years. And now over 50 and worried about my health with 0 insurance as I have been declined health benefits for years now because the discharge I thought was general was an OTH of which I paid no attention at discharge as was told for sure no trouble in life no problem getting benefits.
After tons of research and speaking with dozens who was in much more serious probs than me I wondered if 1 awol and being caught with a 10$ of bud justified a OTH disharge with loss of benefits as I can assure that with only 6 months left I would have hung in there verses going home to family for support to help stabilize my drug issues and prob saved my life. So does anyone think I can file a cue claim for wrong discharge type?
I was OTH'ed November, 2012 after 11 years of service; first 4 years were AD, last 7 was with the Army Nat. Guard, working as security and relief during hurricanes Katrina and Wilma, along with a 2-year stint performing security and law enforcement as part of Eglin AFB's MPs, and 10 months in Iraq.
ReplyDeleteApparently I threatened to go Columbine, Fort Hood and Aurora all together on my First Sergeant and anyone else I could find, thanks to a good friend of mine being bullied--yes, bullying still in the grown-up military--to the point of PTSD-related paranoia and rage that led to him hitting his own mother on return from Iraq.
Fotunatly, the local LEOs recognized my friend's disturbing turn as requiring mental health care through Wounded Warrior, and he was ordered back to service for military-based care. I haven't forgiven my 1SG for letting this childishness and backstabbing behavior by supposed professionals that led to my friend's psychological issues.
Unfortunatly, I got 3 years in a Federal Low prison for threatening to injure my 1SG, and here I am, still on probation.
I don't believe I have to explain how I got from Soldier of the Year, twice, to convicted Felon. Use your imagination.
I have one outstanding problem: My military gear. They haven't demanded it back since I was arrested, nor while I'm on probation. I've figured it's one part fear that I'll show up, personally, with about 3 duffel bags. each possibly holding a rifle or a certain 'powder'. The other part is probably just the orderly people having lost my paperwork for the nth time.
This is a long story, I know. Can I sell the gear? They don't seem to want it back; it's been years since I last put my bags up. I could use the cash, plus donating the rain gear and cold weather stuff to homeless shelters in this city.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Sincerely,
Just Some Guy
In 1976 i joined the army and was sent to ft bliss TX for Boot camp & AIT.december i came home for a 30 day leave for christmas.then in jan of 77 i was sent to Germany.in march of 77 i recevied a call at my barracks from the red cross stating that my mother hade cancer and had to have a operation.i flew home on the first thing smokin.3 weeks after i got home my mother passed away.i was on a 30 emergency leave,i then applied for Excess leave and got it and was trying to get a hardship discharge.i was put at ft dix in a holding company ware i stayed in limbo for months witout being paid not really getting anyware on the hardship discharge.i then tryed for a Compassionate Reassignment.since i was on leave i wasnt geting paid at all,thru out the hole time i was at ft dix i did not collect a pay check,i had a wife and 2 month old daughter at the time and this went on for months w/o pay, i lost my mothers home and her car because of it, i went to my c/o and told him my story and he told me to try the red cross or Army Emergency Relief,or chaplain,well i we to all of them with no luck on geting help.and now i have been in limbo for over 6-7 months @ this time with no pay. they kept telling me that they lost all my records in transit i had nothing.so i took it upon myself to go to my C/O and let him no that i was very disappointed in the handling of my situation,and that tomorrow i was leaving to try and get help and or some kind of income.u see my family was out on the street with no ware to go no money no food nothing me my wife child and younger brother.so i went awol.after 10 month they finelly got me and took me back to ft dix ware i stayed for a few months and then Discharged with a OTH Discharge.about 10-15 years later i showed some interest in up grading my Discharge and went on line and gathered all the forms and wrote my statments and got all my records and sent it off.about a year and a half later i recived the decision was Denied,i was crushed.iam now trying to find something new to resend my app,i say all this to say i no if my mother wouldnt have passed away i would have finshed my tour of duty and because of all the mess of the army with my records me not being paid the hardship discharge compassionate reassignment that did happen but then i still wasnt geting paid i feel an injustice has been done..i have more evidence about my case and files and iam going to keep trying till this is set right.8th infantry, HHB 1/59th ADA. any advice or help would be greatly appreciated thanks
ReplyDeleteI have an OTH for serious offense in the military, I've been out sometime now, I just want to be a teacher, hopefully a philosophy professor. I am getting Financial Aid threw Fafsa, but I do not know if this is going to bar me from fulfilling my dreams to educate people. I want to ask for an upgrade in my discharge (DD Form 293) because i got the discharge for drinking under age, and while drunk i assaulted other soldiers. I do not have any arrest record, or any record for misconduct at all, any job I apply to knows nothing of my military service like Home Depot or Grocery Stores. I do not have a drinking problem, and i love this country very much, It was childish stupid thing I did. But I just want to lead a normal life... If i have to consider another profession I will attempt suicide. Should I kill myself? Or do I have hope?
ReplyDeleteI asked a guy one time, "should I blow my head off?"
DeleteHe told me I should.
I didn't do it and my life is awesssome.
Don't kill yourself.
I have an OTH, I requested and early out after one year of reenlisting for my second tour in the Navy. I was at NAS Pensacola for Aerospace Medical School when I was accused of sexual harassment by a third party. That's right boys and girls a third party, not the party that I allegedly harassed (never harassed the alleged victim, she was brought up on charges that same day for pulling the fire alarm at the barracks at 0300, and after we both suffered thru a bull shit NJP hearing we became very close friend). I also learned that I could have denied the NJP and forced them to take me to Court Martial for this allegation, there I would have had an attorney and they would have had to prove the allegation and not just gone off the word of the third party and used me as an example. This whole event took a tool my my first marriage and I requested early out to salvage my marriage and my life. I was pissed off at the Navy for taking my carrier and throwing a monkey wrench in it. I had a flawless Carrier to that point, serving in the first Gulf War and other operations in just 4 years. I was given my discharge but was never informed that it was going to be an OTH. For years I knew nothing of what happened, I had used my GI bill without out a problem so no red flags, I didn't have a problem getting a job. It only came out when I applied for my first VA Home Loan a few years ago. I was pissed! I called the VA and they refereed me to an attorney who told me I had missed the 15 yr window to have it over turned. "Are you kidding me!" So I'm now going thru the process of filling out a DD 293 to request a change based on the fact that I was never informed about the OTH, and if you are suppose to get a review board if your command wants to give you anything less than an Honorable Discharge. Yeah they never said a word about that ether. So if you receive and OTH I would talk to an attorney that deals with Military Discharges. Make sure your last command did their diligence! Protect yourselves because no one else will!!
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